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		<title>Comment on The new Second Advent Christian video by Betty Eldridge</title>
		<link>http://swedenborgproject.org/2010/08/21/the-new-second-advent-christian-video/comment-page-1/#comment-16785</link>
		<dc:creator>Betty Eldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The second coming is not a rapturous event in this time, nor is it easy to identify as &#039;becoming twice born&#039;, because it&#039;s a psychological event, it happens in life as it did to Swedenborg. The advent of Jesus who was able to point towards a kingdom of heaven, and that its&#039; within marked a changing point. He did not claim to be God, he pointed towards God in my opinion. Life is a religious experience whether the person knows it or not, there are so many individual paths that I hope you understand what I mean when I write that it does not seem to require acknowledging Jesus as God, and a savior, it is God that has to be experienced. 

W. B. Yeats poem, the Second Coming  is a modern clue to the experience: Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer; 
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; 
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, 
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; 
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity. 
Surely some revelation is at hand; 
Surely the Second Coming is at hand. 
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man, 
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun, 
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds. 
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, 
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

&quot;The blood dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned.&quot; What does that mean to you? What it means to me is that when the &#039;second coming&#039; is happening, to the individual, in this time, that person cannot find the kind of validation, i.e. that &#039;love&#039; is behind the changes a person has to live through, and become informed from. Dante, Goethe, many poems have been written about it, but in my opinon psychiatric texts are also about it. Estoteric ideas, psychiatric ideas, mysticism, seem likely to be facets of the &#039;second coming&#039;. Swedenborgs&#039; ideas saved my life, but I had read Robert Monroes first, and had also had an experience in my marital, familial and workplace that was essential. &quot;Be watchful, ye know not when I come.&quot; It was not an event that announced a &#039;second coming&#039;, that had to be discovered, in every aspect, over a span of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The second coming is not a rapturous event in this time, nor is it easy to identify as &#8216;becoming twice born&#8217;, because it&#8217;s a psychological event, it happens in life as it did to Swedenborg. The advent of Jesus who was able to point towards a kingdom of heaven, and that its&#8217; within marked a changing point. He did not claim to be God, he pointed towards God in my opinion. Life is a religious experience whether the person knows it or not, there are so many individual paths that I hope you understand what I mean when I write that it does not seem to require acknowledging Jesus as God, and a savior, it is God that has to be experienced. </p>
<p>W. B. Yeats poem, the Second Coming  is a modern clue to the experience: Turning and turning in the widening gyre<br />
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;<br />
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;<br />
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,<br />
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere<br />
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;<br />
The best lack all conviction, while the worst<br />
Are full of passionate intensity.<br />
Surely some revelation is at hand;<br />
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.<br />
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out<br />
When a vast image out of Spritus Mundi<br />
Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert<br />
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,<br />
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,<br />
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it<br />
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.<br />
The darkness drops again; but now I know<br />
That twenty centuries of stony sleep<br />
were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,<br />
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,<br />
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?</p>
<p>&#8220;The blood dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere the ceremony of innocence is drowned.&#8221; What does that mean to you? What it means to me is that when the &#8217;second coming&#8217; is happening, to the individual, in this time, that person cannot find the kind of validation, i.e. that &#8216;love&#8217; is behind the changes a person has to live through, and become informed from. Dante, Goethe, many poems have been written about it, but in my opinon psychiatric texts are also about it. Estoteric ideas, psychiatric ideas, mysticism, seem likely to be facets of the &#8217;second coming&#8217;. Swedenborgs&#8217; ideas saved my life, but I had read Robert Monroes first, and had also had an experience in my marital, familial and workplace that was essential. &#8220;Be watchful, ye know not when I come.&#8221; It was not an event that announced a &#8217;second coming&#8217;, that had to be discovered, in every aspect, over a span of time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Life on Other Planets Question by Audrey Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Audrey Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Aug 2010 18:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think that spiritual life is much more important compared to our earthly life.&quot;,`</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think that spiritual life is much more important compared to our earthly life.&#8221;,`</p>
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		<title>Comment on So Who Should Run the Church? by Amanda</title>
		<link>http://swedenborgproject.org/2009/06/20/a-note-on-new-church-government-or-absence-thereof/comment-page-1/#comment-16566</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 13:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Jason.  Every believer is a priest because they can have a direct and unmediated relationship with Jesus Christ, the one and only God.  

Christianity is not about intellectual theories, theological dogmas, or doctrinal knowledge.  God&#039;s answers are always simple and God&#039;s answers always work.  So, far from being complicated, Christianity is about every person&#039;s opportunity for a personal connection with Jesus and the blessings that brings.

Swedenborg was a Christian and the books that resulted from his years of conversations with Jesus were written to empower change and reformation in the Christian world and beyond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Jason.  Every believer is a priest because they can have a direct and unmediated relationship with Jesus Christ, the one and only God.  </p>
<p>Christianity is not about intellectual theories, theological dogmas, or doctrinal knowledge.  God&#8217;s answers are always simple and God&#8217;s answers always work.  So, far from being complicated, Christianity is about every person&#8217;s opportunity for a personal connection with Jesus and the blessings that brings.</p>
<p>Swedenborg was a Christian and the books that resulted from his years of conversations with Jesus were written to empower change and reformation in the Christian world and beyond.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Second “Half?” of the book Marriage (“Conjugial”) Love by Kurt</title>
		<link>http://swedenborgproject.org/2010/04/25/the-second-%e2%80%9chalf%e2%80%9d-of-the-book-marriage-%e2%80%9cconjugial%e2%80%9d-love/comment-page-1/#comment-16543</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

As noted above, my thought is that the books of Swedenborg&#039;s that are fully Divinely inspired are those he published himself, and that Marriage Love (CL) is one of those books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>As noted above, my thought is that the books of Swedenborg&#8217;s that are fully Divinely inspired are those he published himself, and that Marriage Love (CL) is one of those books.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Second “Half?” of the book Marriage (“Conjugial”) Love by Michael Hamm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Hamm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 19:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Simons:  Yes, that is exactly how I was brought up.  However, even as young men in a NC school, my cousins and male friends never believed that CL was inspired but rather written for the &quot;time&quot; of Swedenborg.  Only one out of my age group from that society is still in the NC. I do believe in the idea of conjugial love but not the book.  When I was doing the film &quot;Swedenborg: Mystical Cowboy&quot; I came in contact with a lot of NC and Convention ministers.  The topic of divinely inspired writings came up several times over the span of 18 months.  I have read several articles on what is and what is not inspired and am still searching.  Perhaps someone in the Church should do a scholarly paper from BOTH sides of the remarriage issue to act as a bit of a catalyst for discussion.  The discussion is out there but it seems the priesthood of the NC is not listening.  Cheers. Michael.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Simons:  Yes, that is exactly how I was brought up.  However, even as young men in a NC school, my cousins and male friends never believed that CL was inspired but rather written for the &#8220;time&#8221; of Swedenborg.  Only one out of my age group from that society is still in the NC. I do believe in the idea of conjugial love but not the book.  When I was doing the film &#8220;Swedenborg: Mystical Cowboy&#8221; I came in contact with a lot of NC and Convention ministers.  The topic of divinely inspired writings came up several times over the span of 18 months.  I have read several articles on what is and what is not inspired and am still searching.  Perhaps someone in the Church should do a scholarly paper from BOTH sides of the remarriage issue to act as a bit of a catalyst for discussion.  The discussion is out there but it seems the priesthood of the NC is not listening.  Cheers. Michael.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Second “Half?” of the book Marriage (“Conjugial”) Love by Juan Torres</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juan Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 06:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marriage is one of the most sacred ceremonies that we humans experience. Being married also gives us happines.--,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marriage is one of the most sacred ceremonies that we humans experience. Being married also gives us happines.&#8211;,</p>
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		<title>Comment on So Who Should Run the Church? by Kurt</title>
		<link>http://swedenborgproject.org/2009/06/20/a-note-on-new-church-government-or-absence-thereof/comment-page-1/#comment-16486</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 11:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bruce,

I appreciate the compliment, but I didn&#039;t write &quot;You are a Priest.&quot;  It came from 

http://secondadventchristian.com/

which contains a fairly extensive review of this subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bruce,</p>
<p>I appreciate the compliment, but I didn&#8217;t write &#8220;You are a Priest.&#8221;  It came from </p>
<p><a href="http://secondadventchristian.com/" rel="nofollow">http://secondadventchristian.com/</a></p>
<p>which contains a fairly extensive review of this subject.</p>
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		<title>Comment on So Who Should Run the Church? by Bruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 08:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kurt,

Hello and will be visiting site more often.  

Since the WORD states all who believe are priests then separating the body into two &quot;kinds&quot; of believers is error.  Error will then produce its&#039; fruit.  In this case division and not unity. 

This follows right along with buildings being termed &quot;sanctuary&quot; when in reality our body is the &quot;temple&quot;.  

I love and embrace what you stated in &quot;You are a Priest&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kurt,</p>
<p>Hello and will be visiting site more often.  </p>
<p>Since the WORD states all who believe are priests then separating the body into two &#8220;kinds&#8221; of believers is error.  Error will then produce its&#8217; fruit.  In this case division and not unity. </p>
<p>This follows right along with buildings being termed &#8220;sanctuary&#8221; when in reality our body is the &#8220;temple&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I love and embrace what you stated in &#8220;You are a Priest&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Second “Half?” of the book Marriage (“Conjugial”) Love by Kurt</title>
		<link>http://swedenborgproject.org/2010/04/25/the-second-%e2%80%9chalf%e2%80%9d-of-the-book-marriage-%e2%80%9cconjugial%e2%80%9d-love/comment-page-1/#comment-16464</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 20:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

On the second marriage issue - My suggestion would be to see the chapter on “Marriage (“Conjugial”) Love” on that subject (starts at #317 http://smallcanonsearch.com/read.php?book=ml&amp;section=317 ), which covers a lot of territory in a short space. Beyond that, I am not aware of any good studies of the matter.  (If pertinent, the chapter on colds. separation and divorce (Marriage Love #243) might also be helpful.) 

As far as your comment about the teachings on marriage being “bull,” well, that’s a question of personal faith. I have not studied this matter at length directly.  However, I have  taken a closer look at the  underlying issue of what defines any book of Swedenborg’s as authoritative revelation.  

I think a strong case can be made that the books that are the authoritative revelation of the Second Coming are the ones that Swedenborg published himself (see “Which of Swedenborg&#039;s books are Divine revelation?”  http://swedenborgdigitallibrary.org/contets/books.html for details.)  

Since Marriage Love is among the published works, that would argue that it is in fact authoritative revelation. To me this conclusion is still further strengthened by the teachings about marriage love that appear elsewhere in the authoritative works (e.g. Arcana Coelestia 3021, 3942 or the direct copy of sections of Marriage Love (e.g. Marriage Love 2ff. copied in True Christian Religion 731, and Marriage Love 11 copied in True Christian Religion 740).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>On the second marriage issue &#8211; My suggestion would be to see the chapter on “Marriage (“Conjugial”) Love” on that subject (starts at #317 <a href="http://smallcanonsearch.com/read.php?book=ml&amp;section=317" rel="nofollow">http://smallcanonsearch.com/read.php?book=ml&amp;section=317</a> ), which covers a lot of territory in a short space. Beyond that, I am not aware of any good studies of the matter.  (If pertinent, the chapter on colds. separation and divorce (Marriage Love #243) might also be helpful.) </p>
<p>As far as your comment about the teachings on marriage being “bull,” well, that’s a question of personal faith. I have not studied this matter at length directly.  However, I have  taken a closer look at the  underlying issue of what defines any book of Swedenborg’s as authoritative revelation.  </p>
<p>I think a strong case can be made that the books that are the authoritative revelation of the Second Coming are the ones that Swedenborg published himself (see “Which of Swedenborg&#8217;s books are Divine revelation?”  <a href="http://swedenborgdigitallibrary.org/contets/books.html" rel="nofollow">http://swedenborgdigitallibrary.org/contets/books.html</a> for details.)  </p>
<p>Since Marriage Love is among the published works, that would argue that it is in fact authoritative revelation. To me this conclusion is still further strengthened by the teachings about marriage love that appear elsewhere in the authoritative works (e.g. Arcana Coelestia 3021, 3942 or the direct copy of sections of Marriage Love (e.g. Marriage Love 2ff. copied in True Christian Religion 731, and Marriage Love 11 copied in True Christian Religion 740).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Swedenborg and Spiritualism and Spiritism by Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 11:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makram

As you know, the idea of spiritual free will is central to the teachings revealed to Swedenborg.  One implication of that teaching, as I understand it, is that we respect each other’s freedom in deciding what we believe.  This means, again as I understand it, that we do our best to view another person’s belief with charity – especially if we do not agree with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makram</p>
<p>As you know, the idea of spiritual free will is central to the teachings revealed to Swedenborg.  One implication of that teaching, as I understand it, is that we respect each other’s freedom in deciding what we believe.  This means, again as I understand it, that we do our best to view another person’s belief with charity – especially if we do not agree with them.</p>
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