Comments on: Knowing Jesus, Loving Jesus http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/ A 501(c)(3) independent Christian non-profit dedicated to sharing the teachings of the First and Second Advents of Jesus Christ Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:46:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Knowing Jesus http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-26488 Knowing Jesus Fri, 30 Dec 2011 20:46:37 +0000 http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/#comment-26488 The article quotes Joel Osteen, "I find today people are not looking for theology. There’s a place for it, [but] in your everyday life you need to know how to live.” I think here Osteen brings up a false dichotomy, that is making a difference between "theology" and "everyday life". I would say that theology and the doctrines we hold have a direct impact in our lives. Paul the apostle says to "adorn the doctrine of God", and through His letters has a huge emphasis on doctrine. Paul usually focuses on doctrine in the first half of his epistles and then the "walk" and application in the second half. This shows Paul's emphasis on doctrine and good theology, in order to know how to live. The article quotes Joel Osteen, “I find today people are not looking for theology. There’s a place for it, [but] in your everyday life you need to know how to live.”

I think here Osteen brings up a false dichotomy, that is making a difference between “theology” and “everyday life”. I would say that theology and the doctrines we hold have a direct impact in our lives. Paul the apostle says to “adorn the doctrine of God”, and through His letters has a huge emphasis on doctrine.

Paul usually focuses on doctrine in the first half of his epistles and then the “walk” and application in the second half. This shows Paul’s emphasis on doctrine and good theology, in order to know how to live.

]]> By: Richard http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-6051 Richard Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:58:27 +0000 http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/#comment-6051 I would like to respond to what Max said in his comment of April 16,2007. EXCELLENT observation. I found this website recently,and what a blessing it has been. Max hit the nail right on the head. I had been a part of Evangelicalism for many years but found it very superficial. Many people want Christ's salvation,but not His Person. If His Person is accepted for Who He is,then we must believe and obey what He says. "If a man love Me,he will keep my Words,commandments." Many talk but few walk,as the saying goes. As Swedenborg emphasized,Truth and Faith must be joined to Use,or they are useless. Thank you,Max I would like to respond to what Max said in his comment of April 16,2007. EXCELLENT observation.
I found this website recently,and what a blessing it has been.

Max hit the nail right on the head. I had been a part of Evangelicalism for many years but found it very superficial. Many people want Christ’s salvation,but not His Person. If His Person is accepted for Who He is,then we must believe and obey what He says. “If a man love Me,he will keep my Words,commandments.” Many talk but few walk,as the saying goes. As Swedenborg emphasized,Truth and Faith must be joined to Use,or they are useless.
Thank you,Max

]]> By: peter http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-2453 peter Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:03:38 +0000 http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/#comment-2453 Dear Ladies and Gentlemen: What happened to meditation as a way to Christ? Swedenborg was big on meditation!?! Peter Dear Ladies and Gentlemen:

What happened to meditation as a way to Christ?

Swedenborg was big on meditation!?!

Peter

]]> By: max http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-282 max Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:58:33 +0000 http://swedenborgproject.org/2007/04/08/knowing-jesus-loving-jesus/#comment-282 To know God one has to "meet" Him through the means HE has provided.  We approach God on HIS terms.  The first term HE has laid down is accepting and agreeing in HIS "PERSON."  By that I mean if HE makes a claim we agree together it is true and act accordingly.  Jesus claimed to be "I AM," i.e. The Everlasting Father.  God promises when we come to HIM on the terms of accepting THE CHRIST as HIM we can NOW know HIM.  "Behold I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear MY voice and open the door I will come into him and will sup with him and he with ME." God has spoken to us through the Son - HIS flesh - that is HIS voice part.  Opening the door means agreeing to accepting HIS PERSON.  Many people are attempting to put the cart before the horse - to know HIM before accepting HIS person. To know God one has to “meet” Him through the means HE has provided.  We approach God on HIS terms.  The first term HE has laid down is accepting and agreeing in HIS “PERSON.”  By that I mean if HE makes a claim we agree together it is true and act accordingly.  Jesus claimed to be “I AM,” i.e. The Everlasting Father.  God promises when we come to HIM on the terms of accepting THE CHRIST as HIM we can NOW know HIM.  “Behold I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear MY voice and open the door I will come into him and will sup with him and he with ME.” God has spoken to us through the Son – HIS flesh – that is HIS voice part.  Opening the door means agreeing to accepting HIS PERSON.  Many people are attempting to put the cart before the horse – to know HIM before accepting HIS person.

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